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Gary Shapiro’s From the Bookshelf

James L. Swanson: Manhunt

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="g7pXOc6JyA"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/james-l-swanson-manhunt/">James L. Swanson: Manhunt</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/james-l-swanson-manhunt/embed/#?secret=g7pXOc6JyA" width="500" height="350" title="&#8220;James L. Swanson: Manhunt&#8221; &#8212; From the Bookshelf" data-secret="g7pXOc6JyA" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

A special archive edition features our interview with James L. Swanson, author of the exciting Manhunt: The 12-Day Chase For Lincoln’s Killer!

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Animals Make Us Human

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Temple Grandin is this week’s guest. She discusses her new book Animals Make Us Human, and what it’s like to be portrayed on film by Claire Danes!

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Alex the Parrot

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Dr. Irene M. Pepperberg discusses her work with Alex, an African Grey Parrot who could not only talk, but also understand what he was saying and why he was saying it. Visit The Alex Foundation.

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Robert Wagner

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Robert Wagner listens intently while I regale him with stories of my past. (Kidding! Dr. Evil’s Number Two does all the regaling.)

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Anthony Rudel on the Origins of Radio

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="4y8wDkPmTA"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/anthony-rudel-on-the-origins-of-radio/">Anthony Rudel on the Origins of Radio</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/anthony-rudel-on-the-origins-of-radio/embed/#?secret=4y8wDkPmTA" width="500" height="350" title="&#8220;Anthony Rudel on the Origins of Radio&#8221; &#8212; From the Bookshelf" data-secret="4y8wDkPmTA" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

Anthony Rudel discusses his informative little book on the history of radio.

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Animation Historian Jerry Beck

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Jerry Beck returns to discuss the latest DVD cartoon sets that he has curated, as well as a host of lovely new publications he has written.

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Steven Rinella Returns

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Our friend Steven Rinella returns to From the Bookshelf to discuss his latest book American Buffalo. Entertainment Weekly says of this book, “ The story of our country, Rinella shows, is inextricably intertwined with the story of this animal. A–”

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Alphabet Juice from Roy Blount Jr.

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Humorist Roy Blount Jr. joins us this week to discuss his new book and other stuff. It’s fun! Check out Roy’s website www.royblountjr.com

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Stefan Kanfer on Marlon Brando

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Stefan Kanfer’s biography Somebody: The Reckless Life and Remarkable Career of Marlon Brando is the topic this week.

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Philip Norman on John Lennon

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Philip Norman, whose Beatles biography SHOUT! is a classic, joins Gary to discuss his new book on John Lennon.

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