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From the Bookshelf

GARY SHAPIRO’S FROM THE BOOKSHELF

From the Bookshelf is produced with support from radio station KSQD in Santa Cruz California. Host Gary Shapiro brings you interviews with best selling authors of fiction and nonfiction, graphic novelists, actors, photographers, and singer-songwriters discussing their works. Visit us on Facebook! Your comments are welcome. Email us at gary@rattlebrain.com.

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Suzanne Finstad on Natalie Wood

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Suzanne Finstad on Natalie Wood

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="uDdvjimAYm"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/suzanne-finstad-on-natalie-wood/">Suzanne Finstad on Natalie Wood</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/suzanne-finstad-on-natalie-wood/embed/#?secret=uDdvjimAYm" width="500" height="350" title="“Suzanne Finstad on Natalie Wood” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="uDdvjimAYm" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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Suzanne Finstad discusses her new revised book, Natalie Wood:The Complete Biography

July 21, 2020
Carl Reiner 1922-2020

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Carl Reiner 1922-2020

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="AY4V1Hwm4K"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/carl-reiner-1922-2020/">Carl Reiner 1922-2020</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/carl-reiner-1922-2020/embed/#?secret=AY4V1Hwm4K" width="500" height="350" title="“Carl Reiner 1922-2020” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="AY4V1Hwm4K" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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From The Bookshelf remembers the legendary Carl Reiner as we present interviews from our archive.

July 14, 2020
Larry Tye on Senator Joseph McCarthy

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Larry Tye on Senator Joseph McCarthy

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="niIE8ymhCA"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/larry-tye-on-senator-joseph-mccarthy/">Larry Tye on Senator Joseph McCarthy</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/larry-tye-on-senator-joseph-mccarthy/embed/#?secret=niIE8ymhCA" width="500" height="350" title="“Larry Tye on Senator Joseph McCarthy” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="niIE8ymhCA" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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Larry Tye, whose books include biographies of Robert Kennedy and Satchel Paige, returns to discuss his new book, Demagogue: The Life & Long Shadow Of Senator Joe McCarthy.

July 7, 2020
Daphne Geismar

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Daphne Geismar

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="hnG4L645JN"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/daphne-geismar/">Daphne Geismar</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/daphne-geismar/embed/#?secret=hnG4L645JN" width="500" height="350" title="“Daphne Geismar” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="hnG4L645JN" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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Daphne Geismar discusses her book Invisible Years: A Family’s Collected Account of Separation and Survival During The Holocaust in the Netherlands.

June 23, 2020
Kent Carroll & Jodee Blanco

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Kent Carroll & Jodee Blanco

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="I5eJr5Nim1"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/kent-carroll-jodee-blanco/">Kent Carroll & Jodee Blanco</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/kent-carroll-jodee-blanco/embed/#?secret=I5eJr5Nim1" width="500" height="350" title="“Kent Carroll & Jodee Blanco” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="I5eJr5Nim1" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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June 9, 2020
A. Kendra Greene

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A. Kendra Greene

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="NFhWJrSilV"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/a-kendra-greene/">A. Kendra Greene</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/a-kendra-greene/embed/#?secret=NFhWJrSilV" width="500" height="350" title="“A. Kendra Greene” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="NFhWJrSilV" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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June 2, 2020
Kerri Maher

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Kerri Maher

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="1FRAvFB83q"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/kerri-maher/">Kerri Maher</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/kerri-maher/embed/#?secret=1FRAvFB83q" width="500" height="350" title="“Kerri Maher” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="1FRAvFB83q" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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Novelist Kerri Maher discusses her new book, The Girl In White Gloves: A Novel Of Grace Kelly.

May 26, 2020
Neal Bascomb’s Faster & Liz Pollock’s Lost Restaurants Of Santa Cruz

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Neal Bascomb’s Faster & Liz Pollock’s Lost Restaurants Of Santa Cruz

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="qE1WcVvOPr"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/neal-bascombs-faster-liz-pollocks-lost-restaurants-of-santa-cruz/">Neal Bascomb’s Faster & Liz Pollock’s Lost Restaurants Of Santa Cruz</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/neal-bascombs-faster-liz-pollocks-lost-restaurants-of-santa-cruz/embed/#?secret=qE1WcVvOPr" width="500" height="350" title="“Neal Bascomb’s Faster & Liz Pollock’s Lost Restaurants Of Santa Cruz” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="qE1WcVvOPr" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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Two great guests! Neal Bascomb discusses Faster: How A Jewish Driver, An American Heiress, And A Legendary Car Beat Hitler’s Best, and Liz Pollock talks about The Lost Restaurants Of Santa Cruz County.

May 5, 2020
Artist Robynn Smith

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Artist Robynn Smith

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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="pIAkZg0NzI"><a href="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/artist-robynn-smith/">Artist Robynn Smith</a></blockquote><iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" src="https://fromthebookshelf.com/podcast/artist-robynn-smith/embed/#?secret=pIAkZg0NzI" width="500" height="350" title="“Artist Robynn Smith” — From the Bookshelf" data-secret="pIAkZg0NzI" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe><script> /*! This file is auto-generated */ !function(d,l){"use strict";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&"undefined"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret="'+t.secret+'"]'),c=new RegExp("^https?:$","i"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display="none";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute("style"),"height"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):"link"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute("src")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener("message",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll("iframe.wp-embedded-content"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute("data-secret"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+="#?secret="+t,e.setAttribute("data-secret",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:"ready",secret:t},"*")},!1)))}(window,document); //# sourceURL=https://fromthebookshelf.com/wordpress/wp-includes/js/wp-embed.min.js </script>

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In case you missed this interview with artist Robynn Smith last week, here is an encore presentation. Robynn is the founder of Print Day In May which is coming this Saturday!

April 26, 2020
Kimberly Potts On “The Brady Bunch”

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Kimberly Potts On “The Brady Bunch”

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Popular culture historian Kimberly Potts discusses her new book, The Way We All Became The Brady Bunch. Also artist Robynn Smith on Print Day In May.

April 21, 2020